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Some notes on interfacing to the Kenwood TKR-720 and TKR-820 tabletop repeaters By Mike Morris WA6ILQ |
![]() Date printed: 28-August-2008 |
This is a "quickie" page that was put together to share two pages of handwritten notes from my file cabinet that cover interfacing a TKR-n20 repeater to an external repeater controller (where "n" is 7 or 8). The second pass a few months later added the TS-64 notes.
This web page is not pretty but it works. If someone has a TKR-n20 repeater and wants to create a photo article he is free to use the tables below and I'll be happpy to replace this page with his article.
Information to be added:
1) Photo of the front of a TKR-n20
2) Photo of the rear of a TKR-n20
3) Closeup photo of the acccessory connector
4) DigiKey or Mouser part number for the mating connector body and pins that go on the cable that plugs into the TKR (i.e. what part numbers to order)
5) Schematic of the RUS buffer that makes them standard
6) Info on TKR-n20 programming and any relevant notes (maybe some screenshots?)
| TKR-n20 Accessory connector | |
|---|---|
| Pin Layout: The connector is five rows of three pins across in this format: 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 |
|
| Pin | Description and Notes |
| 1 | Jumper to pin 11 (ground) - grounding this pin tells the TKR to use an external controller |
| 2 | Audio ground |
| 3 | Transmitter modulator in (used as external PL injection input - don't use for anything else). If you are using shielded cable - recommended - tie the shield to pin 2. |
| 4 | Receiver discriminator out (hook the audio input of any external PL decoder(s) here, otherwise don't use) |
| 5 | Transmitter audio in (i.e. repeat audio from the external controller) If you are using shielded cable - recommended - tie the shield to pin 2. |
| 6 | External speaker ground (see pin 12) (jumper this pin to pin 11) |
| 7 | +12vDC out of the TKR. This pin will source up to 1 amp so you can power an external controller from this pin. My old notes don't mention if this pin is fused inside the TKR (or if it's fused separately from the radio), so don't short it to ground accidentally. You don't want to melt a trace or the harness. |
| 8 | PTT input (ground to xmit) (see note 1) |
| 9 | Internal speaker (jumper to pin 12 to enable) |
| 10 | De-emphasized receiver audio (i.e. repeat audio out to the external controller) |
| 11 | Ground |
| 12 | Internal speaker audio out (jumper to pin 9 to enable) |
| 13 | RUS out (see note 2) |
| 14 | Empty hole in the connector body (see note 3) |
| 15 | Empty hole in the connector body (see note 3) |
Table notes:
If you want a system that is remotely switchable between carrier and tone (which is very handy when you are trying to figure out what the grunge is) you need to do one of three things:
| Notes on the Com-Spec TS-64 tone decoder | |
|---|---|
| Wire Color |
Signal Description and Notes |
| Red | + DC power in |
| Black | Ground |
| Green | AUDIO INPUT. Hook this to the receiver discriminator |
| Violet | This is the HANGUP input. Ground this pin. When it's floating the decoder is disabled. When it's grounded the tone must be present. |
| White | MUTE - This is the actual tone decoder output signal. It is an active high open collector output, and it requires a pullup resistor. If you need active low install jumper JP7 to cause the signal to go to ground on decode. |
| Yellow | This is the ENCODE Output. This audio is connected to the transmitter modulator. |
| Orange | PTT input. Ground this to switch the tone encoder on. When ground is removed the encoder phase is shifted (i.e. reverse burst), and the encoder stops when the 160ms is over. In our application the repeater controller PTT output goes to this pin. |
| Grey | PTT Output. This signal goes low when the orange wire is grounded and stays low for the duration of the grounded input plus the reverse burst timing. In normal radio usage the PTT lead from the microphone would be disconnected from the radio and be connected to the orange wire, and the grey wire be connected to the point in the radio where the microphone PTT lead was. In our appliction this pin goes to the transmitter PTT input. |
| Blue | FILTERED RECEIVE AUDIO OUT. The path from the green wire (in) and the blue wire (out) has a high pass / low cut audio filter in line, designed to remove the subaudible tone from the user audio. This is an installers choice - You can feed the blue wire back into the receve audio connection. This type of radio surgery is very radio dependent and cannot be covered here. Many radios have a tone removing high pass filter in them from the factory and in that case you can simply tape off the blue wire and ignore it. |
All of the above TS-64 information is in the Instruction Sheet that is packed with the TS-64 itself. In addition it can be downloaded from the Com-Spec web site, or from the TS-64 page at this web site.
In closing, the above are NOTES, not a step-by step procedure. You may have to play with some of the connections to make them work, as I took the notes as I did the work, and I may have missed writing something down. I also used the internal decoder on one TKR and a TS-32 decoder on another, and my old notes are not clear as to what was different between the two. If anybody wants to take what is here and write a real article from it, feel free to.
The TS-64 info is above instead of the TS-32 as it's current product, and easier to use.
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